00:01
So let's talk a little
bit more about membranous.
00:04
It's the second most common form
of nephrotic syndrome
seen in adults.
00:08
FSGS or focal segmental glomerulosclerosis
is actually most common.
00:13
Membranous occurs in
all ethnic groups,
but it's most common in men
over the age of 40 years.
00:19
When we think about the
etiology or causes of membranous
about 70% of cases
will have what we call the
primary form of membranous.
00:27
We're going to talk about
that just in a few moments.
00:29
Secondary forms of membranous
include things like infections
(Hepatitis B to a lesser
extent hepatitis C), syphilis.
00:39
And we also have malignancy
associated that would be lung,
breast,
gastrointestinal cancers,
which are most common
and then finally drug associated
membranous nephropathy which
would be drugs like gold
penicillamine which we used to
use from rheumatoid arthritis
and NSAIDs,
and the last category
is autoimmune,
and that would include lupus.
01:03
So let's talk about primary
membranous nephropathy.
01:06
So when we think about
the primary form,
it's really an autoimmune disease
mediated by IGG antibodies
that are directed to an
antigen, a self antigen
which is the m-type
phospholipase A2 receptor.
01:19
So this is a schematic
that actually diagrams exactly
what I'm talking about.
01:23
So in patients who have membranous
remember we talked about
patients with glomerular disease
have a genetic predisposition
some kind of
environmental trigger
and a tendency
towards autoimmunity.
01:33
So what this environmental trigger is?
We don't know
but in the case of membranous
what happens is that
self protein now
becomes antigenic.
01:41
If you look at my
diagram over here
what you can see at the bottom
of the slide is the lining
of the capillary lumen.
01:47
The blue area is going to be our
glomerular basement membrane.
01:50
The pink is our podocytes,
and those little end pieces
are podocyte foot processes
that are actually attaching to
the underlying basement membrane.
02:00
The little red circles
represent the antigen
mPLA2 to that's our
phospholipase A2,
antigen which is now
recognized as foreign.
02:08
Now what happens when
we recognize as foreign,
we or our patient
who has this disease
are going to generate
IGG antibodies
anti-PLA to our antibodies
against that antigen.
02:20
Once those antibodies
are generated,
they are then going to
bind to that antigen
and what happens
when we have antigen
and antibody binding
to each other
they form an immune complex.
02:31
When immune complex is form
we then get activation
of complement.
02:36
When complement is activated.
02:38
Remember the ultimate
pathway for complement
is going to be turning on
that membrane attack complex
and when that membrane attack
complex gets turned on,
then we ultimately have protease
that are released
that ultimately
degrade that podocytes
so we have necrosis apoptosis
and we have actin cytoskeleton
rearrangement of this foot processes.
02:59
And our ultimate,
the conclusion will be that our patients
will have high grade proteinuria.
03:07
So how do our patients
actually present or
what happens they present
with nephrotic syndrome,
some clues that are going to be
helpful in terms of the diagnosis is
that they will have nephrotic
range proteinuria meaning
that they have greater than 3.5
grams per 24 hour period of time.
03:25
Remember in our example,
our gentleman had nine grams.
03:28
Our patients are
hypoalbuminemia,
but often times below
2 grams per deciliter
just like in our example.
03:35
Our patient had a serum albumin
of 1.9 grams per deciliter again,
because they have
high grade proteinuria
they're losing that albumin
through their urine.
03:42
They have edema,
they're often edematous
in volume overloaded.
03:46
And they have hyperlipidemia
and can have lipiduria.
03:50
And if you're lucky enough
to look at that urine
underneath a microscope,
you may see those old fat
bodies or fatty casts.
03:56
Otherwise the sediment
is relatively bland.
03:57
We're not going to see
any other cellular casts.
04:01
When we do serological tests
looking at their blood their
serum complements are normal.
04:05
And that may be a
little counterintuitive
because I just talked
about how when an antigen
and an antibody binding together
that actually stimulates
the classical pathway
of complement activation.
04:15
But remember where
this is happening,
this is on the sub
epithelial side,
so we don't see it
in a systemic fashion
and we're not going to be seeing
serum compliments getting used up.
04:25
So if we're thinking
about primary membranous,
we can actually measure
those PLA to our antibodies
and their positive and about
70 to 80 percent of people
who have primary membranous.
04:36
There's also another
antigen that's involved.
04:39
That's thrombosed fondant type
one domain containing 7A (THSD7A)
and these are positive
in about 10% of people
who have primary membranous.
04:49
So about fifty percent of those
patients who are PLA2R negative
are actually going to
be positive for THSD7A.
04:57
So we also want to rule out
secondary causes of membranous.
05:01
So our patients may
have Hepatitis B or C.
05:04
So it's important to check
those hepatitis serologies,
or they may have an
autoimmune form like lupus.
05:11
So it's important to look at
anti-nuclear antibodies ANA
and double-stranded DNA which
measures lupus activities.
05:19
And then of course,
the definitive diagnosis
is going to be with
a renal biopsy.
05:25
So before we looking
pathologically
what happens in our
patients with membranous,
it's important to review the
normal glomerular histology.
05:32
This is a beautiful
image of a glomerulus
and what you can see here
and what I want to point out
are these beautiful
capillary loops here.
05:39
Look how open they are and how
delicate and perfect they are.
05:42
So the cells that are going
to be located here are
glomerular epithelial cells,
the podocytes and
our endothelial cells
which line that capillary lumen.
05:51
And then in the areas in between
kind of the stock of that glomerulus
these are masangial cells and
they produce matrix in their cells
that reside there as well.
06:02
Okay, so when we have a patient
who's presenting with membranous,
what do we see on our biopsy?
Well, we're going to take
one of those cores of biopsy
and we're going to look
at light microscopy.
06:12
There's a couple
of different stains
that we can do by
light microscopy.
06:15
But one of the better
stains to look at
which will bring out basement
membranes is the Jones silver stain
and on Silver stain
what we can really
appreciate here
is that there is the spike
and dome or spike appearance
that you can see,
so it's illustrated over
here with our arrow.
06:31
Is that that capillary loop
has a spiky appearance
because of the fact
that you have these
immune complexes
that don't take up stain.
06:39
And they're sitting there
in the sub epithelial space.
06:41
Remember the
podocytes are injured
because of that immune complex.
06:45
So they're cranking out a
lot of basement membrane
and when they do
that that kind of gets extruded
in between those
actual immune complexes
therefore giving
it kind of a spiky
or spike and dome appearance.
06:56
So very pathognomonic
if you hear that
you really need to be
thinking about membranous
and it's something that will
probably come up on your board test.
07:05
We also want to take
one of those cores
that we get from our biopsy
and we want to look at
the immunofluorescence.
07:10
So here on our frozen section
looking at immunofluorescence.
07:13
We see our heavy chain IGG.
07:16
Remember our patients are
making those IGG antibodies
that are directed at
that antigen mPLA2R.
07:22
So we can see that on
our immunofluorescence
with variable amounts
of C3 complement.
07:26
And what you would can appreciate
on this particular slide here,
is that you have almost like
a powdered sugar to appearance
where these immune the IGG
is just kind of sprinkled
on the outside or outer
aspect of that capillary loop.
07:43
Finally,
we have the electron microscopy
and what's blown up here
and what you can appreciate
is kind of a loop
or one of our loops
of our capillary loop
on the inside is the endothelium
that kind of darkened area is
their glomerular basement membrane.
07:57
And then on the outer area
is where our podocytes foot
processes are residing.
08:01
And what I'm calling your
attention to with the arrows
is that if you can appreciate
kind of that darker area
within that glomerular
basement membrane,
those are our sub
epithelial deposits.
08:12
That is what we are
seeing in membranous,
so it's on the sub
epithelial side
meaning that it's just below
the podocytes cell body,
but it's just above that
glomerular basement membrane.
08:21
We can also see because
those podocytes are injured.
08:24
We're going to see actin
cytoskeleton rearrangement
and we see foot
process effacement or
we might actually see denuded
areas of basement membrane
where they've actually
been picked off
from the underlying
basement membrane.
08:37
So we think about the course and
how our patients do over time
once they're diagnosed
with membranous.
08:42
There's a couple of different
ways that they can go.
08:44
So sometimes patients
are lucky enough
to have a spontaneous remission.
08:49
Probably occurs on the
order of 5-30% at 5 years.
08:53
That means that when we're
talking about a remission
patients are able to achieve
less than 200 milligrams
of proteinuria per day.
09:00
We tend to see that in
a younger population
more females than males tend to
enter a spontaneous remission.
09:05
We can also see a spontaneous
partial remission.
09:07
That means that they're
making less than 2 grams
of proteinuria per day.
09:11
That probably occurs in about
25-40% of patients at five years.
09:15
But in about 14% of
patients have five years
if their untreated and we don't
have any therapy for those patients
about 41 percent
of those patients
are going to progress to end
stage renal disease at 15 years.
09:28
So again, if that patient is
sitting there in front of us,
what's most critical
is to figure out
who is at risk for
progression, for progressing,
because those are the patients
that we really want to target.
09:38
So things to think
about are patients
who are older age at the time
that membranous is diagnosed.
09:45
Males more than females,
so male gender just like we talked
about in chronic kidney disease
is one of those risk
factors for progressing.
09:53
Having an increased serum
creatinine at the time of diagnosis
and if you think
about what that means
that just means that,
that patient probably has
had membranous for a
longer period of time.
10:01
And they have not yet entered
spontaneous remission,
so we know already
that they're at risk
for progressing.
10:07
And patients who have high grade
proteinuria at presentation.
10:11
So if they have greater
than 8 grams of proteinuria
and significant
nephrotic syndrome
then those patients
really are at risk.
10:17
And finally,
on biopsy,
if I see the presence
of tubulo interstitial fibrosist
meaning that my tubules
and interstitium
are starting to be scarred,
that absolutely is a risk factor
for that patient progressing.
10:31
So that comes to thinking about
treatment for our patient.
10:35
So all patients regardless
of what's going on,
or regardless of their risk profile
should receive nonspecific therapy.
10:42
And this is what we outlined
at the beginning of the talk.
10:45
Those patients should be on ACE
inhibitors and ARB's for RAAS suppression.
10:49
They should be on a loop diuretic
like bumetanide, or furosemide
to mobilize the volume that
they've accrued from that edema.
10:56
They should absolutely
have a low sodium diet
and their blood pressure needs to
be controlled at less on 130/80,
and treatment of their
hyperlipidemia often with a Statin.
11:06
Now, we do have something
beyond nonspecific therapy
and that's immune
targeted therapy.
11:12
But I'm not going to
give that to everybody
that really needs to
be reserved for people
who are at risk for progression
or for people who have such
severe nephrotic syndrome
or complications of
nephrotic syndrome
that they can't be controlled with
just nonspecific therapy alone.
11:27
So those therapies
include things like
cyclophosphamide and prednisone
that we administer over a
six-month period of time.
11:34
Cyclophosphamide is
an alkylating agent,
it's not something
to be used lightly.
11:38
So I'm only going to choose
and target that population
who's really at risk from
succumbing to their disease.
11:44
Cyclosporine which is a calcineurin
inhibitor can also be used
in patients who can't
tolerate cyclophosphamide
and we can use
that in combination
with low-dose prednisone
as an alternative.
11:55
And finally, there's rituximab.
11:57
A monoclonal antibody to CD20
and that likely will replace the
others as first-line therapy.