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or, you know, surrogate decision-makers
make decisions about withholding and withdrawing.
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Let's first of all define some terms.
So, withholding the treatment means not starting the treatment.
00:18
Withdrawing means stopping the treatment
once it's already been started.
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Another term that I like to use is foregoing
treatment because this allows you to cover
both the withholding as well as
the withdrawing of a treatment.
00:34
And the idea here is a patient always
has the right to refuse a treatment.
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If we're respecting autonomy,
they should be able to decide
whether or not they want a treatment
or don't want a treatment.
00:46
So, when you forego something, it could be
either it hasn't been started yet
or it's been started and you want to stop it.
So, that's allowing the patient to make the decision.
00:58
And if here is a decision about foregoing
a life-sustaining treatment,
then, you know, what we consider in ethics
is that this is allowing the patient to die
of their underlying disease process.
It's not as a result of the withholding or withdrawing.
01:13
It's the underlying disease that causes
the death of the person.
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Now, some people will try to draw a distinction
between withholding and withdrawing.
01:23
But it's important to point out that
if you withhold a potential treatment,
you know, that down the road
might have some benefits,
that's no different than, you know,
not instituting a treatment.
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So, it may or may not be effective.
01:40
When you withdraw a treatment, you know,
you're saying that it's proven ineffective.
01:45
So, some people would say, well, that's easier to justify.
You've given it a try. It doesn't work.
01:51
That gives further
justification to withdrawing.
01:55
Now, some people also say there's
a difference between an act in omission.
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So, a moral act or an action seems
more active, you're actually doing something
whereas if you never instituted it
in the first place, you're not acting.
02:11
But philosophers would disagree
with that and say, that distinction
between withholding and withdrawing
really doesn't play out
because the omission is still an action
even if it's not, you know, stopping a treatment.
02:26
Now, it has to be recognized that there
will be people that will have an emotional feeling
that there is a psychological difference
between withholding and withdrawing.
02:38
So, here, you know, it's harder to stop
a treatment that's already been initiated.
02:43
So, you know, you've already put it in place.
It seems, you know, emotionally harder to say,
I'm going to stop this treatment that's
already, you know, the patient's already receiving.
02:56
There may also be, you know, a discomfort
with the actual withdrawing.
03:00
So, once you've instated, you've had some loyal
to the patient that you need to follow through
and see what that
treatment's going to do.
03:07
It may be, well, you know, even though
we're saying stopping a treatment,
withdrawing the treatment is allowing the
underlying disease process to cause the person's death.
03:20
This might be a, you know, a natural
emotional reaction to say,
I'm going to deny death by
not stopping this treatment.
03:26
We're just going to keep going
and let nature take its course
rather than me being the one
that stops the treatment.
03:35
It does create a feeling in the person
that maybe they are part of the causal chain
that leads to the patient's death even though
it's the underlying disease process that causes the death.
03:45
And once a treatment is started and, you know,
there's been these discussions about withdrawing,
you keep going, you keep doing things
may be a way to show the family,
well, you're doing everything possible
to try to keep their loved one alive.
04:02
And then, lastly, there may be patients
and families that have religious grounds
for why they would not withdraw treatment
such as, you know, withdrawing a ventilator.
04:11
They would say, "Well, God is in control.
I let God make the decision of when the person might die."
In philosophy, they've really
come down to the conclusion
that there's no moral distinction
between withholding and withdrawing.
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The reason for this are, again, what I said
before, patients can refuse treatment at any time.
04:34
Second, that there can be justifications
for stopping a treatment
should be the same as though
as for not initiating it.
04:40
So, why you decided it too burdensome
now, once it's already in place,
should be the same as the justifications
for why it's burdensome before you even start it.
04:52
And then, actually, you know, having
a higher requirement for cessation
might actually discourage
trials of therapy.
04:59
So, maybe as we're going to talk about
in a bit, you give a therapy a chance
but once you see that it's not working,
there might be the decision to withdraw it.
05:09
One important caveat when you say
that there's no moral distinction
between withholding and withdrawing
is let's say you've got two patients
and they're getting the last two
ventilators at your hospital.
05:21
If you have both of them on it
and now, a third patient comes in.
05:27
If you say, "Well, this patient also needs a ventilator.
They're in respiratory distress.
05:32
They need the ventilator, taking one
of those earlier patients off the ventilator,
withdrawing the treatment from them
and giving it to the new patient,
there is a moral distinction between that.
05:43
In some way, the patient that's already
on the ventilator has a first come, first serve.
05:49
They've already got some
entitlement to the ventilator.
05:52
Taking them away from them to give it to a third
person would be counter to, you know, good ethics.
06:01
You want to make sure that the patient
that's coming in is taken care of
but not at the expense of the patient
that already has the ventilator.