00:01
For those that it doesn't stop
and things keep progressing,
now they enter the third phase.
00:06
Not everybody goes through the third
phase, but some people do.
00:10
So, when we say it's
not a universal outcome,
that means it not everybody has to go
through the fibrotic phase who has ARDS.
00:18
Good thing,
but those that do,
it is bad news.
00:23
Because it's an increased mortality,
you know, that means death,
and may also have prolonged.
00:30
Prolonged,
prolonged mechanical
ventilation.
00:37
Okay, so someone whose
lungs become fibrotic,
they're stiff, they're not
compliant, their gunked up.
00:43
They have an increased
risk of dying
and we know they're going to be on that
mechanical ventilator for a long time
because their lungs just
can't do it on their own.
00:53
They've got this significant
interstitial and intra alveolar fibrosis.
00:59
Now I want you to think
back to those pictures,
remember where the
interstitial space is.
01:05
Think about that alveolar wall.
01:07
Yeah.
01:07
So everything in there is stiff,
that's what fibrosis means
stiff, thick, dense.
01:15
It's not compliant.
01:17
It doesn't move well and you know,
we're not going to have good gas exchange.
01:21
We're not going to have tissue
that can expand and contract.
01:23
We've got major lifetime
alteration here.
01:28
So, they can also have some collagen
deposits as if all this wasn't enough.
01:31
They can also have collagen
deposits in the alveoli.
01:35
They can avascular and
interstitial areas with microcysts.
01:38
This is crazy
change to the lungs.
01:42
So we're glad not everyone goes
through this but if they do,
they are going to have lifetime
risks and complications
if they survive this phase.
01:53
Keeping in mind,
lung damage is progressive.
01:56
I love I had someone
help me with this
because I really wanted to
see these two things together.
02:02
So you've got fraction of
maximum right there, right?
So we're talking one equals the
maximum of what we usually see.
02:10
Now look along the bottom,
those are the number of days
Now, we broke it up into phases.
02:15
The exudative phase, the proliferative
phase and the fibrotic phase.
02:19
Remember not everybody goes through
that, thank goodness.
02:22
So, please just write that in the
slide because we all need hope.
02:25
Write down,
not everyone goes through this.
02:28
Increased mortality if
they do enter this phase.
02:32
But look at the edema,
when is it peak?
Yeah, early on we're
talking about all that fluid
and edema that and that
interstitial space.
02:39
Now, let's look at the next phase,
we're talking about the hyaline membranes.
02:43
You see where they peak.
02:45
Yeah, still in that exudative
phase but they peak,
and then they kind of drop off because
you're gonna have a lot of them built.
02:53
Now, look at the proliferative phase,
look at the interstitial inflammation.
03:00
That's a later sign,
good you're getting it,
I love how you're reading
this graph with me.
03:05
Last look at
interstitial fibrosis,
kind of evens out till
that proliferative phase.
03:10
That's where both the interstitial
fibrosis in the interstitial inflammation
hit their peak is in
the proliferative phase.
03:19
So should you be able to
recreate this for the exam?
No, I just want you to see
hey, here's a great snapshot.
03:27
I'm expect my patient to be
edematous more in the beginning.
03:29
They were going to have the
hyaline membrane is developing.
03:32
Meanwhile that interstitial
inflammation and interstitial fibrosis
is starting to happen in
that exudative phase,
but it's going to hit its peak
in the proliferative phase.