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Hi, thanks for watching.
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And joining us today
and I'm Samantha Rhea
and I'm sitting here
with my student Mallory
and I actually know Mallory because
she was my student through RN school.
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But why she's sitting here with us
today is Mallory was a practicing LPN.
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And she actually decided to go on to bridge
from her LPN to RN, and that's how we met.
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And you know what's
unique about Mallory
is that she actually works
in the intensive care unit.
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So she'll be able to give
us a really neat perspective
on that piece and
that level of care.
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And we'll explore that
a little bit later.
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But really, I just wanted to
sit down today with Mallory,
have just an informal conversation
about what's it like to be an LPN?
What's it like to really
be in practice nowadays?
So we're going to ask
some of those questions.
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But first thing I really love to
say is or just to ask you Mallory
is when you decided
to go into LPN school
what was that point of your life,
like were you straight out of high school
and decided LPN was for you or just kind of
where were you at in your lifetime at that?
So at the time,
I was working for a cardiology office,
I was a medical assistant and I
was scrubbing like venous cases.
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I was done with doing that,
I had always wanted to be a nurse.
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But my husband was active military
and deployed and we had a daughter,
we had a 1-year-old at the
time that I went to LPN school.
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So that's where I
went from there.
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I bet that was busy.
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- Yeah, it was.
- Okay.
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So how was that with
your family dynamics?
Was that difficult to maybe
juggle that type of schedule?
Yeah, it was because not
only was he active military,
but I mean,
I had babies and got married young.
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So both of my parents,
both of my husband's parents are working.
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So it's not like
we had childcare.
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So it was difficult to find
childcare Monday through Friday,
and make it still be affordable
because I wasn't really able
to work during LPN school.
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Okay. And why would you
say that would be the case?
Why were you not able to work?
Well, I had a family.
So that was my number one, of course,
but it I mean,
Monday through Friday, 8am-5pm.
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So unless you're going to work
like evening shift or weekends.
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I mean, if you were single, or if you had
to make it work weekends would be okay,
but it just was difficult.
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Yeah, okay.
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Mallory, why did you become
an LPN in the first place?
Like what was it about it that
seemed advantageous for you?
Or why was that the
right route for you?
What was attractive about being an LPN
for me was the program was a lot shorter.
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My program specifically
was 11 months,
compared to that of a bachelor's
degree was three to fourish years.
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So that and with my husband
being deployed often,
it was easier for me to
do an 11-month program
rather than a long period of
time getting a bachelor's degree.
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Okay, awesome.
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So when you decided
to do that route,
do you feel like you
would do that over?
Yeah, I would 100% do it over again.
And here's why.
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It's because at work, there's only
a couple of LPNs because it's rare.
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But I would say and I've
heard this often that
that LPNs have more of
a background of skills,
and they're better
skill oriented.
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So we're always being asked to do
IVs and GS, Foley's things like that.
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And it gave me a really
good base to be an RN.
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Yeah, great. Okay.
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In your current level of
practice, do you feel like
obviously,
there's some advantages,
but what can you tell me
as being an LPN Acute Care?
What do you think the
disadvantages are?
Or just the LPN,
being an LPN in general,
what do you feel like the
disadvantages might be for someone?
I think one of the largest
disadvantages that I've noticed lately
is not always just like
the staffing coordinator,
or how supervisor or whatever
know that you're an LPN.
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They just look at your
name on the board.
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So they'll just see
Mallory Hoffman as a nurse.
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And though a lot of the
times, especially from an ICU,
they'll try to give me
an ICU level patient,
and I cannot legally take
like event or a drip.
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So that's a big disadvantage.
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Okay. So that actually brings
up a really pertinent point
that it feels like is this
fair to say that as an LPN
even though you're working
at a high level of care
that you are the one that
has to protect yourself
in regards to your scope of
practice and your license?
Is that fair to say?
Yeah, multiple times,
I've had to step in and fight for myself.
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So I'm not taking a patient
that wouldn't be appropriate.
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How do you feel like
that actually goes over?
- Not well.
- Okay.
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It never goes over well,
that's always drama.
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And you feel like if that's the case, maybe
because you've worked there for some time,
can you kind of tell me how you actually
became an LPN in the ICU setting?
Because that's not
typically a common place.
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But how did you actually
get into that position?
How did you learn that role?
Actually, one of my friends
is one of the HR coordinators
with the health system,
so she called me one day
and said that they were opening
up like trial spots for LPNs.
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And it was supposed to be an
admin discharge and transfer nurse
however this was during COVID.
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And we were short nurses.
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So they throw us into staffing and legally
we were able to take up to patients,
like progressive
care patients so.
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I see. Okay.
05:14
I'm glad that you said that because
state to state is different,
but really advocating
for yourself
I think that's difficult,
but you are astute enough to do that.
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And I think that is something to
consider that if you're an LPN,
really wanting that
higher level of care,
you will have to be your best advocate and
protect your license, protect yourself,
because, you know, nobody wants
to lose that obviously, right?
You work really hard for it.
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And I think that's something that comes
that you're gonna have to understand
with being an LPN is you're gonna
have to be able to fight for yourself.
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No you're not an RN,
but don't ever let that discourage you,
because you are
a licensed nurse.
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So you need to be able to advocate
for yourself and your patient.
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Okay. I love that.
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You kind of touched
already on this.
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But one thing I'd really
love to hear from you
is that you're an LPN
in a special role.
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What do you see that maybe that you like
sell in in regards to your RN colleagues?
I think that since I've
already been an LPN,
and more especially in
an acute care setting,
I'm really good at
critical thinking.
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I'm really good at being able to
differentiate what needs to happen first,
time management.
I think that's one of my best aspects.
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I love that. Okay.
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And why do you feel
like that is the case?
How do you feel like
your LPN education
really just sets you up
to have that foundation?
In my program, at least,
it was really hardcore,
making sure that you did have the
ways of thinking as an RN as well,
and not just setting
in the role as an LPN.
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I think that's like really
good about LPN schools,
you're getting the base of
everything that you need to know
to set yourself up for success as
if you do further your education.
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Is it fair to say that you had
a good amount of clinical time?
- Yeah.
- Like a lot of clinical hours.
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So that's kind of my experience
that I was an LPN as well.
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And when I went to school for LPN,
and then I taught in that program that
clinical time is
a strong emphasis.
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So you get a lot of patient care contact.
Is that fair to say?
Well, yeah, I mean, we went the whole
pretty much the whole 11 months,
there was only one or two weeks
that we weren't in clinicals
that we were there 24 hours a
week, so yeah.
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Okay.
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So you settled into the ICU,
do you feel like that was a
great place for you as an LPN?
Yeah, I do. I do.
Although it can be challenging at times,
because I do have to watch what I'm doing,
what I'm pushing, what I'm touching.
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But yeah,
I think it's taught me a lot. Yeah.
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Okay, great.
07:46
One question I'd like to ask
you that how I met Mallory
as she was an LPN
coming into our program.
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And she has actually
decided to bridge to her RN,
can you kind of explain to the
audience what that looks like
as when you came in the program,
where you came into the curriculum,
and why you decided to go
from an LPN to RN bridge?
When I was in LPN school, I was also
finishing up an associate degree.
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So you do have to have that
to be able to bridge in
at least to our program
to a bachelor's program.
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And when I went in,
we skipped the fundamentals part,
and like health assessment,
but we went into like med surg too,
mental health, things like that.
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And so I felt pretty prepared,
because we touched all those
things in our LPN program as well.
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So I think it was easier for
me, I wouldn't say was easy,
but it was easier to transition.
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Okay.
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And tell me what was your main
driver of going back to RN school?
Because I'm essentially doing the same
job as the RN, at least in acute care,
but I'm getting paid
probably $10 less.
08:52
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
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Can you tell me
what your goal is?
Do you think from going from LPN now to
RN, what is your end goal?
It's always been this is why I went for
a bachelor's degree I want to educate.
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I want to educate the nurses
that are gonna come after me,
take care of me when I'm
older, take care of my family.
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I want to educate.
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Okay, awesome.
09:17
Let's see.
09:18
So you will do it
again, the LPN to RN?
- 100%.
- Okay.
09:22
And do you have any
single piece of advice
for maybe a student
in nursing school,
and maybe also a piece of
advice as maybe a new LPN
that you could give to our
audience before we leave today?
The best advice is
this is temporary.
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It's not forever.
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It's only maybe 1, 2,
3 years of your life, that's it.
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You have 80 plus years to live.
So it's only temporary.
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It does suck for now,
but it's not always going to be that way.
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And tell me again that how do you feel
about just looking at LPN versus RN school?
What do you think again,
just to emphasize the the audience
what's the main reason why or some
really good pieces of why LPN,
maybe LPN school
maybe a better choice?
You're honestly you're a
lot better at your skills.
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That's basically what
you're doing an LPN school
is you're learning how to
do the skills as a nurse
and being able to do
those interventions.
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And you come out knowing
how to do those things.
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Okay.
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What about the schedule program
itself anything like that
was that more
digestible, if you will?
I would say so. I mean,
like some programs, maybe 15 months,
mine was 11, Monday through
Friday, 8-5, that was unfortunate,
but it is better to me
because it was faster
to be able to get into
practice and be a nurse.
10:41
Okay.
10:42
So I would like to ask you, what did
you do to prepare for the NCLEX-PN,
and how was your experience
taking that exam?
Yeah, so I blacked it out.
10:55
Pretty much.
I just did review questions,
just like NCLEX review
questions, read the rationales.
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The rationale will definitely
set it in your mind.
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Like why you shouldn't
pick that answer.
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The day of NCLEX,
I really don't remember much.
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I just remember walking in,
they pretty much like body check you,
make sure you don't
have anything on you.
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If you have like a wristband
like a hair tie or something,
they take it off,
like they give you a new one.
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You go in, sit down,
do your questions.
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There's practice questions within the
LPN NCLEX that they don't tell you about.
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So you just answered
them like you would,
I mean, like you were
going to take the NCLEX.
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So that's all I really remember.
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I went to my car
and cried after,
and then it took two weeks
for my results to come back.
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So usually, that's not the case.
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It should take 24 to 48
hours, but that happened.
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There was a glitch
during my test.
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Wow, okay.
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What did you do
in that two weeks?
I cried a lot.
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- It was during Christmas.
- Oh, wow.
11:51
I took it the 26th of December.
So I took it the day after Christmas.
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I was supposed to start a job
the first week of January.
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I couldn't so I had to
push it back a week.
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So yeah,
it shouldn't be that way for you.
12:05
So did your employer
work with you though?
- Yeah.
- Okay, all right. Great.
12:08
So, at the end of the day,
you were successful, obviously.
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So how'd that feel?
I felt like I was
on top of the world.
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I mean, I know there's so
many nurses in this world,
but like I was
finally one of them.
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So it felt good.
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Great, okay.
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Any advice as a brand new
LPN just going into practice
in the middle of just where a nursing
shortage is? Where it is at times?
Anything maybe that you would just like
to throw out there for the audience?
Yeah, know what a safe
ratio is for your unit.
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And do not take anything over
that, just stand up for yourself.
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Mallory, thank you for
taking time out today.
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And that was great information.
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Thanks for watching.